Welcome to Podzave the World, I'm Tommy Vittor. I'm Ben Rhodes.

Great to be back in the studio with you. Nice to be here.

What's the last time we were in the same room?

The summer was oddly eventful.

We were traveling a lot, man. Family travel, work travel, like conventions. I got COVID like all kinds of stuff.

Oh you did get COVID that sucks. I'm shocked I don't have it after being at that

and everybody and I talked to the DNC like a lot of people got it.

You're seeing a lot of people be tweeting like if I spoke to you last week I got some bad news.

Speaking of the DNC Ben, we do have to address the elephant in the room here which

are Dan Feifer's comments from last week that he believes that the foreign policy section in major speeches is the best time to go pee

and that he has never listened to a word you wrote spoken by Barack Obama.

How did that make you feel?

I made me feel very small.

I almost felt like I could, I almost felt like I could I almost felt like a speech is violence

Because there's a glee in Dan's voice all of them all of them at that little table is shitting on us.

Turtling and, oh, well, first of all, I noticed that the fucking natural security

section went down hard, man. Yeah. crushed we sparkle that in the room and and like

I seem to remember like Barack Obama giving hundreds of thousands of words that I wrote for him that Dan Feyfer apparently was negligent in his job.

He hated him.

Maybe he didn't care about people in other parts of the world. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he didn't care about people in other parts of the world. I don't know. I don't know Dan. I know who did. I know who did.

And now I'm playing my trump card here. Go on there. Who? Howley loved the National Security sections of the speeches.

She would always make a point of saying, yes, Dan's Better Half was like a huge world

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