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🗓️ 17 April 2025
⏱️ 110 minutes
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In this episode, we explore 10 common pitfalls people face during religious deconstruction. From navigating relationships and parenting outside of organized religion to the challenges of psychedelics, intellectualism, and identity loss—this is a raw, honest conversation about life after faith. Whether you're just beginning your journey or deep in it, this discussion offers insight, validation, and guidance.
Key topics covered:
Why opening your marriage right after leaving religion may backfire
How to provide structure for your kids without religion
The psychedelic trap & chasing spiritual highs
The “missionary phase” of ex-belief systems
Finding meaning beyond religion, without clinging to new dogmas
The lifelong process of deconstruction
And much more, including Gen Z dating, chakras, free will, and dreams
Don’t miss her reflections on what she’s learned, what to avoid, and how to move forward with integrity and openness.
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0:00.0 | If you are in a healthy learning process, you should be deconstructing and reconstructing all of the time. |
0:06.0 | It is not a past tense event that we check off a list. I deconstructed Mormonism. |
0:11.0 | Your deconstruction should keep going. After Mormonism, it should keep going. |
0:15.0 | There's a lot of people that I know that it's faith crisis yesterday and right into alcohol and open marriages tomorrow. |
0:24.6 | Ex-Mormons tend to be adults with delayed adolescence. They have no sexual education, no sexual |
0:30.1 | communication skills. They're getting drunk for the first time, making out in hot tubs, |
0:34.4 | and blowing up their lives in ways that sometimes they look back and regret. |
0:38.3 | No Mormon I've ever met has enough sexual education and consent education to be running a healthy, open marriage the day that they lost their faith after reading the CES letter. |
0:49.3 | We can be known for a missionary phase or being kind of a militant atheist when we're ex-Mormon. And so I think |
0:57.0 | we need to be aware of the missionary aspect of Mormonism that we're bringing into atheism. We're |
1:02.5 | more likely to be atheist and we're more likely to be annoying in our atheism. And it comes from a |
1:07.9 | good place often. Like I want people to experience the freedom that I'm |
1:11.4 | experiencing. I want people to experience the human development that I'm experiencing. But it is not, |
1:16.7 | you are not the arbiter of other people's stories. And we have to sometimes remember that, |
1:20.9 | not only when we're Mormon, but when we're ex-Mormon too. I think that the lie of atheism |
1:25.5 | is that all you have to do is walk out of the door of religion |
1:28.9 | and you'll just stumble upon your best life. You'll know how to do your relationships and meaning |
1:33.4 | and purpose and you'll just kind of like trip upon it. What we're trying to do here is say there are |
1:39.5 | problems with fundamentalism and there are problems with nihilism. Both places will kill you. |
1:45.5 | Both places will kill you. |
1:47.2 | And so I think you can make better decisions if you can fully see the pros and cons list |
1:52.6 | of what religion provides and what religion limits, |
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