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Cato Daily Podcast

Texas Top Cop Shop, Inc. v. Garland

Cato Daily Podcast

Caleb Brown

Politics, News Commentary, 424708, Libertarian, Markets, Cato, News, Immigration, Peace, Policy, Government, Defense

4.6949 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The feds want millions of businesses and other corporations to turn over sensitive information so they can snoop for evidence of crimes. It’s an affront to financial privacy, anonymous association, and other liberties. The requirement is laid out in the Corporate Transparency Act, now the subject of litgation at the Fifth Circuit. Caleb Kruckenberg represents the Texas Top Cop Shop and others in the case.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily podcast for Thursday, February 20th, 2025. I'm Caleb Brown.

0:09.9

The so-called Corporate Transparency Act is now on hold. That law, if implemented, would compel

0:15.7

companies large and small to report to the feds a lot of very sensitive information that,

0:22.7

quite frankly, is none of their business. Caleb Kruckenberg is litigation director at the Center for Individual Rights.

0:27.5

He's representing Texas Top Cop Shop, among others, in a current federal case that will be

0:33.1

closely followed by anyone who cares about financial privacy and burdensome regulation.

0:38.4

We spoke last week.

0:40.6

The Corporate Transparency Act sounds fairly unobjectionable, but as I spoke with Brent

0:47.5

Scorup and Jennifer Shulp recently about some of the contours of this law, it seems that, at

0:53.6

least for a long time, it wasn't really

0:56.0

clear what this law obligated companies to do or exactly why this particular set of information

1:06.7

was necessary for the federal government to have access to. Can you tell me what you understand

1:13.3

this law to do and how it has infringed upon your clients? What has been kind of amusing for me

1:23.6

throughout this process is even now nobody can really say or agree on what this law does.

1:30.3

There are lots of different theories.

1:33.2

But what we do know is that however you construe it, it's bad.

1:38.8

And the government thinks it does a lot.

1:41.9

But the two questions that kind of were left when Congress passed the

1:46.5

Corporate Transparency Act were, one, exactly who this applies to, and two, when. So the first

1:55.3

question and just kind of a refresher, the CTA says to quote unquote business entities, which includes actually a

2:04.8

lot of nonprofits, as I will discuss later, but it applies to these when they've registered

2:12.2

with a state. And these have to disclose their beneficial owners, which is defined kind of strangely as

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