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This is The Pitchfork Review. I'm Jeremy Larson, the reviews director.

For our final show of the year, we're going to take a big, broad look at the trends,

scandals, gossip, technological moves and industry changes that shape the musical landscape of 2003. And, look at the trends, scandals, gossip, technological moves and industry changes that shape the

musical landscape of 2023, and later we'll be joined by always who share their song,

I Wish I Wrote. Joining me in the studio, my dear friends, editor-in-chief, Pujia Patel,

and associate editor, Kat Zang, how are you? How are we doing today?

Hi, Budz.

Hi. Good.

This episode, we wanted to just take like a 10,000-foot view of what happened in the last, I don't know, 12 months, basically.

Sometimes we'll just sort of sit around in the office and be like, is this a thing?

Do we have three examples of this thing?

And then can we make it a trend?

Kat, you brought this idea called The Rise of the Musical Theater Girl.

What is that?

Okay.

There are a lot of big pop girls now who have musical theater backgrounds or have that aura of theatricality to them.

So we have Renee Rapp, who is a Broadway star and in Mean Girls, the musical, the movie.

And then we have Olivia Rodrigo, who was in high school musical, the musical, the series.

Not this again.

And then we have Chapel Rowan who I think did musical theater growing up in school

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