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🗓️ 9 July 2019
⏱️ 26 minutes
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0:00.0 | When leadership advice feels like buzzwords and platitudes, it's time to get real. |
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0:18.3 | wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the HBR Idea cast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Kurt Nickish. Command and control has lost its mojo. Nowadays if you want to create an |
0:50.4 | innovative organization no one would tell you to build a rigid bureaucracy. |
0:56.6 | But what should you build? |
0:58.1 | How can you have creativity without chaos? |
1:02.3 | That's a question that really grabbed our guests today. They |
1:05.6 | wanted a clearer picture of the ideal company and so they went out and looked at two |
1:11.6 | organizations Park, that's the R&D Division of Xerox, and W.L. Gore and |
1:17.4 | Associates, that's the material science company best known for Gore-Tex. And what they found is that there are three different |
1:25.0 | kinds of leaders at these organizations. Those leaders work in conjunction |
1:29.9 | flexibly, but within a set of prescribed rules. Let's call this nimble leadership |
1:36.6 | because that's also the title of their HBR article. Our guests are Deborah Ancona. She is a professor at MIT Sloan School of Management |
1:46.2 | and she founded the MIT Leadership Center and Kate Isaacs, she's a research fellow there. |
1:51.9 | Along with their colleague Elaine Bachman, |
1:54.6 | they wrote the article that's out now |
1:56.7 | in the July-August 2019 issue. |
1:59.6 | Deborah, thanks for coming on the show. |
2:01.3 | Delighted to be here. And Kate, thanks for being here. Delighted to be here. |
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