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And, yes, Tarty to the party.

Brandon says, yeah, a little bit.

I'm seven minutes after 7.30, but I wanted to make sure everyone was here.

It looks like people are coming into the chat.

And I'll tell you what, it is a busy day for me.

This whole week's been busy. And I look back and I wonder why sometimes, or how, how. The holidays

are coming up. And it's just like, I'm sure I'm not the only one that's going through this,

but there's a million things to plan for and prepare for.

And so there's a lot of stuff I want to do with this time.

I have, I really need to get my next book out.

So you could pray for me.

But I just saying all that to say this, I wasn't expecting to do a podcast tonight.

I, I really argued myself into it probably within the last two hours and said,

you probably just need to do this.

And it's because I've been getting questions from people who are supporters of mine

about this statement, this Antioch statement.

And so I thought, you know, I might as well just do a live stream about this.

Yes, I have read it. I read it not long before it went public. Someone sent it to me.

And it probably went public half an hour later. And I do have thoughts on it. We'll go through it

together. I want to talk about broadly speaking also

this issue between, well, I don't even, I guess, yeah, I guess that's a way to frame it between

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