The Apartheid Killer: 4. The Hunter Becomes the Hunted

World Of Secrets

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7 • 765 Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Can the reign of terror of Louis van Schoor be stopped? There was a state of emergency in South Africa and resistance to the apartheid regime had intensified. A coalition of activists had him in their sights. African National Congress supporters, lawyers and journalists were fighting to bring the apartheid system to an end and, in turn, bring mass murderer van Schoor to justice. Could they succeed?

Since this episode was recorded, it has been announced that Louis van Schoor died, on 25 July 2024. There will be more about this later in the series. This was a four-year investigation and the interviews with Louis van Schoor were recorded in 2022 and 2023.

Please note, this episode of World of Secrets includes descriptions of violence and torture, which some listeners may find distressing.

Season 3 of World of Secrets is a collaboration with the BBC World Service investigations unit, Africa Eye. Here’s a link to the BBC Africa Eye film, which we recommend you watch after listening to this podcast: https://youtu.be/QPB42_uLLh0

If you are in the UK, you can watch on BBC iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0021dvm

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0:29.0	Before we start,
0:30.0	this episode of World of Secrets
0:32.0	includes descriptions of violence and torture, which some listeners may find distressing.
0:38.0	East London, South Africa. It's the late 1980s.
0:45.0	Police officers are scouring through a maze of alleyways and dirt streets.
0:50.0	They are forming a net around a specific house in the heart of Duncan Village, a township on the
0:57.2	outskirts of the city where members of an underground resistance are plotting the downfall of
1:02.1	the apartheid regime.
1:04.0	One of these resistance fighters, a man called Joe, is the target.
1:10.0	He's been stockpiling weapons in his home and the police are coming to find them
1:18.9	There was an AK in the fridge in the refrigerator at the back and there were two grenades in one bin and there were another
1:30.5	two have one grenade in another bin.
1:34.0	The grenades are hidden inside bins full of flour,
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