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Reasonable Faith Podcast

The Apostle Paul and Joseph Smith's Vision

Reasonable Faith Podcast

William Lane Craig

Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Christianity

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Are there comparisons between Paul's encounter with Christ and Joseph Smith's vision of two personages?

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0:00.0

Bill Rob Bowman has written a paper comparing the Apostle Paul's encounter with Christ on the Damascus Road

0:06.7

and Joseph Smith's encounter with two personages he claimed to be God, the Father, and Jesus.

0:14.1

And that started Mormonism.

0:16.5

It would take us hours to critique Joseph Smith's vision and defend Paul's, but let's look at some of

0:23.1

the contrast that Bowman offers. This is often used by skeptics to try to show that the Christian

0:29.5

is in the same boat as the Mormon, despite the theological differences between the two.

0:35.2

If one can dismiss Joseph Smith's alleged encounter,

0:39.6

then one can dismiss Paul's Damascus Road experience. What are some of the initial considerations

0:45.9

for dealing with things like that, Bill? I think this is in principle a good objection,

0:52.9

and it will depend upon a close examination of the evidence in each case.

1:00.8

Historically, Kevin, skepticism about biblical miracles was influenced much more by Conyers

1:09.1

Middleton's book on counterfeit Catholic miracles than by Hume's famous essay.

1:16.7

Middleton argued that there are spurious miracles down through church history attributed to saints and

1:26.8

statues and relics and things of that sort, which nobody

1:31.5

believes really happened. And yet, the evidence for many of these would seem to be just as good

1:38.1

as the evidence for the biblical miracles. And so the result of Middleton's book was to undermine the credibility of the biblical

1:48.8

miracles. Dale Allison, in his most recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, employs the same

1:57.6

sort of objection to cast doubt on the testimony to Jesus' empty tomb.

2:03.5

He claims that there are reports of so-called rainbow bodies in Tibetan Buddhism,

2:13.6

where Buddhist monks disappear from their tombs.

2:18.8

They evaporate, leaving only their hair and fingernails in the coffin.

2:24.9

He also gives a story from Pope Gregory the Great of someone whose tomb was found empty

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