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The Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex explain the fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh — a contested region inside Azerbaijani borders but populated largely by ethnic Armenians. They break down the Soviet-era origins of the conflict, discuss why the fighting has flared up in a particularly scary way this summer and fall, and then zoom out to the role that major powers like Russia and Turkey play. References: Alex wrote an explainer for Vox on the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Also check out Politico’s explainer on the issue. The Guardian reported on how half of Nagorno-Karabakh’s population has already been displaced. The OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs plan to meet to discuss an end to the fighting. Meduza has some helpful history that clears up why this conflict has lasted for so long. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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available now wherever you get your podcasts. Armenia and Azerbaijan are at war.

1:09.3

Armenia and Azerbaijan are at war.

1:11.4

These two countries in the Caucasus region of Central Europe are in the middle

1:16.4

of a flare up of a conflict over a region called Nagorno-Karabakh. At least 350 people are dead that is likely a substantial under count the last time these two countries went to war over this territory

1:34.9

30,000 people died. So this is a serious conflict. It is coming back to the fore of international politics again, and today unworldly, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, we are going to explain to you why this is

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happening, how we got to this point, and how it might end. I'm Zach Beacham here as always with Jen Williams and Alex Ward.

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Hey.

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