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B&H Photography Podcast

The Art of Competitive Cycling Photography, with Phil Penman & Kristof Ramon

B&H Photography Podcast

Jill Waterman

Podcast, Photography, Arts, Visual Arts, Bh, Photo

4.62K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Top shot © Kristof Ramon
 
The dynamic arena of competitive cycling photography is not for the faint of heart. This grueling specialty requires a mix of split-second reaction times, intuitive technical mastery, and the ability to anticipate—and even more important—embrace risk. It takes a special breed of photographer to continuously capture every ounce of emotion packed into this sport, from bruising injuries and bitter disappointments to the exaltation of a win. 
 
For today’s show, we’ve brought together two passionate cycling aficionados, former competitive cyclist and renowned street photographer Phil Penman and Kristof Ramon, a cycling photography specialist who recently released his first book on the subject. While they’re introduced as strangers, get ready to be wowed by the synchronicity of their shared experiences, and the remarkable chemistry that grows between them over the course of the show.
 
Most people’s awareness of competitive cycling revolves around coverage of the Tour de France or other major races shown on TV. Our conversation delves much deeper than this, to reveal what happens behind the scenes, and show both the intensity of purpose and the many stages of suffering that’s a hallmark of this sport. Kristof’s book is titled The Art of Suffering for a reason. As he aptly sums up in the book’s opening quote: “Where the conditions get grimmer and the riders start to suffer, that’s when the more interesting stories begin.”
 
Guests: Phil Penman & Kristof Ramon
 
Episode Timeline:
 
3:56: Phil Penman’s connection to the competitive cycling world and how his insight as a cyclist informs his photography of the sport. 
 
7:45: The logistics of photographing competitive cycling and the perils of damaging photo equipment.
 
10:36: The creative aspect to photographing competitive cycling and how to think outside the box to get impactful shots.
 
15:16: The many stages of suffering involved in competitive cycling, and the pride riders take in having this documented visually.
 
20:35: Photographer access, the difference between training rides and race days, and the distinctions between agency access and working independently.
 
26:26: Changes to Kristof’s photographic approach and the influence of social media in the sport’s evolution.
 
31:31: Technical aspects of cycling photography, understanding light, capturing speed, and putting in the time so to react intuitively to picture opportunities.
 
43:44: Episode Break
 
44:53: Communication strategies, building rapport with riders and teams, and people skills given the sport’s international reach.
 
47:51: Cycling’s rich history as a professional sport, and recent changes initiated by British Team Sky that helped the sport evolve.
 
54:45: The back story to Kristof’s Art of Suffering book project and how his collaboration with cycling writer Matt Rendell helped identify suffering as a narrative element.
 
58:40: Working with clients, balancing that work with personal projects, and developing a distinctive voice as a photographer. 
 
1:06:15: How to start out as a competitive cycling photographer, questions about credentials, and adapting to new networks to distribute your work.
 
1:13:23: Balancing technical aspects of action photography with the desired emotional response while building in certainties and calculating risk.
 
 
Guest Bios:
British-born, New York-based photographer Phil Penman has documented the ever-changing scene of New York City’s streets for more than 25 years. and he has quite a bit of experience in the world of professional cycling himself.
 
In his career as a news and magazine photographer, Phil has photographed major public figures and historical events. His reportage following the 9/11 terrorist attack was featured in major print publications and media broadcasts worldwide, and his work covering New York City’s pandemic lockdown is in the collection of the U.S. Library of Congress. 
 
In addition to exhibiting at Leica galleries in New York, Washington, D.C., Boston, and London, Phil’s signature street photography has appeared in international exhibitions as far afield as Venice, Berlin, and Sydney. He also tours the world teaching photo workshops for Leica Akademie. Phil’s books, "Street" published in 2019, and "New York Street Diaries" published in 2023 both became best-sellers and have been featured at New York’s Museum of Modern Art.
 
Kristof Ramon is a pro-cycling photographer who covers some of the world’s most prestigious races, including the Tour de France, the Giro d’ Italia, the Tour of Flanders and Paris Roubaix. Born and raised in Belgium, Kristof discovered photography while attending film school at age 19. He eventually followed his passion for cycling and photography and has focused exclusively on this sport since 2011. 
 
Working under the name Kramon, his talent for storytelling and his ability to capture the atmosphere and raw emotion of racing makes his images stand out from typical race photography. Kristof’s reputation has earned him the respect and trust of many of the biggest racing teams and riders - which is why he’s able to capture such extraordinary in-between moments and behind-the-scenes images. The riders are always his primary focus, as evidenced in his close-up portraits of racers caked in sweat, mud, dust, snow, and grime. Kristof’s first book, The Art of Suffering, was released in June 2024 by Laurence King Publishing.
 
Stay Connected:
Phil Penman Website: https://www.philpenman.com
Phil Penman Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/philpenman/
Phil Penman Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/philpenmanphotography/ 
Phil Penman Twitter: https://x.com/Penmanphoto 
Phil Penman Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Penman
 
Kristof Ramon Website: https://kramon.be/
Kristof Ramon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kramon_velophoto
Kristof Ramon Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kramon/
Kristof Ramon Twitter: https://x.com/kristoframon 
Kristof Ramon Photoshelter: https://kramon.photoshelter.com/
Kristof Ramon Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kristoframon/ 
Kristof Ramon at Lawrence King Publishing: https://us.laurenceking.com/products/the-art-of-suffering
 

 

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This week's episode is sponsored by GoDox.

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You're listening to the B&H Photography Podcast.

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For 50 years, B&H has been the professional source for photography, video, audio, and more.

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For your favorite gear, news, and reviews, visit us at B&H.com or download the B&H app to your iPhone or Android device.

0:22.2

Now here's your host.

0:23.7

Welcome listeners.

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I'm Derek Fosmender, the new host of the B&H Photography Podcast.

0:28.9

And I'm Jill Waterman, the podcast's senior creative producer.

0:32.6

And I'm Mike Weinstein, the show is technical producer and audio engineer.

0:35.9

The world of professional sports photography

0:38.0

has long been a landing zone for many of our industry's most skilled individuals. It's a world

0:43.1

full of high-octane excitement, pressure, and technical challenges that requires a specific

0:48.0

breed of photographer to reliably capture every ounce of emotion, from the bitter disappointments

0:53.1

to the exaltation of victory.

0:55.9

Given this premise, we'd like to start today's show with an update about a recent listener

0:59.7

tip. Our episode on the summer games in Paris from earlier this year prompted listener

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Cessna 6535 to suggest we do a future show on photographers who cover competitive cycling races like the Tour de France.

1:13.8

This tips sent us off on a whirlwind search of our photography contacts, which led us to the two

1:19.1

amazing photographers you're going to hear from in a few moments. Thanks so much for the great idea

1:24.8

Sessna 6535. And to all our other listeners, please keep the suggestions coming.

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We welcome your input either via email or at our home under the podcast tab on the B&H Photos YouTube page.

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We couldn't do this show without you, and we are truly thankful for your engagement.

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