Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College

Podcast Network. More episodes at podcast.com.hillsdale.org, or wherever you find your audio.

Good morning, glory, and evening, Grace, America. That music means it's time for the Hillsdale

dialogue, the last radio hour of the week. And that means Dr. Larry Arne is back with us from Hillsdale College.

Dr. Arn, of course, is the president of Hillsdale.

All Things Hillsdale.

Can be found at Hillsdale.edu, and all of our dialogues are found at Hugh for Hillsdale.com.

We will turn to Winston Churchill's My Early Life, which is a rip-roaring good read of a book next week.

But since Dr. Arne has been away for a couple of weeks, I wanted to welcome him back by covering recent events.

By the way, Dr. Arn, Wilford-McClai is just a gem.

I'll bet you you have to fight students to get them to take your class and not his.

Yeah, but I have power.

Yeah, no, he's a Chopin. He's really great. He wrote this, he's made many great

achievements in his life, but one of them is after 30 years or 40 years of friends of ours talking about how we need a good textbook on American history, darned if he didn't up and write one.

And it's just, it's called Land of Hope, and it's just tremendous.

That's what we spent our time last week talking about.

And to the extent I am able, I'm going to try and persuade every teacher in America that this is the right, objective, but not neutral.

That's his phrase.

Objective.

He's not neutral about his country, but he's very objective about how he got here.

And I think he handles pretty much everything, including complex things like

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