79% of the New Year's goals made by individuals are about fitness. What we want to do today is maybe

challenge everybody on a different fitness goal, and that is a spiritual fitness. And I'll just say

this, you're trying instead of training. And trying is what most people start their year out.

They try rather than train it. So we want to ask some questions. Like, what is specifically

that spiritual discipline you want to develop? It's not about a routine, but you're pursuing

knowing God more. A lot of people are done with their Bible reading, like they'll set their goal

for January, and they're done

by the end of January. I think there might be a reason. I think because...

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to Conversations. I'm John joined by my wife Lisa. Lisa, here we are beginning of a new year. It's almost hard to the program. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Conversations. I'm John, joined by my wife Lisa.

Lisa, here we are beginning of a new year.

It's almost hard to believe that.

I know.

We faced a few in our marriage.

I think this is our 43rd in our marriage.

New Year's. Yes.

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