Hey, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Dr. Leonard Sacks.

I met Leonard a couple years ago, I guess, at a conference

and was absolutely fascinated with his ideas about parenting, especially about fatherhood,

the way he looks at the problems that boys and girls are having. And I think at this moment,

this has got to be one of the most important topics out there. I think the culture is shifting. I think and hope it is

shifting for the good, but obviously it doesn't shift and it doesn't change if we don't change it in

our homes where the future is created. Leonard Sachs is a board certified family physician,

psychologist. He's the author of The Collapse of Parenting.

Why Gender Matters, Boys Adrift and Girls on the Edge.

He's visited more than 500 schools worldwide.

He's appeared on major radio and television programs,

including The Today Show, CBS, CNN, Fox, and NPR's Weekend Edition.

But now he has finally made it after climbing that scale to the daily wire.

It's great to see you, Leonard. How are you doing? Thanks for writing me.

No, it's a real pleasure. So this is, collapse of parenting is a book you brought out before, but it's a new edition. And you say that things have changed and that they've actually

gotten worse in that time. So, first of all,

what, what period of, how long a period of time are we talking about? And can you just talk about

some of those changes, how things have gotten worse? Sure. So the first edition came out January

2016 and I'm proud of report. It was New York Times bestseller. But yeah, things have gotten, things have

gotten a lot worse. So Trinity United Presbyterian Church hired me to do two days of workshops

for parents recently. And I have a few fans, people who turned out for 12 hours of Leonard Sachs over two days.

And you do that.

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