This is the bookwrite podcast. I'm Jeff O'Neill. And I'm Rebecca Shinsky. And today we have officially

flipped the calendar in our hearts and minds, if not literally the calendar. So we're still in December

here when we're coming to you. But it's time to look ahead, Rebecca. No more year and new views. Best

Doves. I think we can use this opportunity to wipe the slate clean for one, Barack Obama and give him a pass on a truly inexplicable list, which I guess our first new shows of 2025.

We can come back and take a look of that.

Check our Instagram to see how that all turned out.

And the reactions of the readers was pretty funny.

Rarely have we been that wrong. We're wrong

often because we are people, but we were, man, we were super wrong. And somehow I think we're not

wrong still. I don't know how it can be that his picks for himself were wrong. How can it be

to express an opinion in the immortal worlds of the great John Cusack and high fidelity? But still,

it feels a little

bit like, I have to edit myself now. He's zagged. He's pretty predictable. He's got a, like,

relatively regular formula to his book lists, whether he thinks about it that way or not. There are some

sort of, like, consistent categories that he comes up in and it tends to be

relatively predictable and he just completely went, you know, out of that lane this time around.

Anyway, we're going to, well, let's save it for a real show, but that's a, maybe he has checked out

like 2024 like we have and he's like, you know, he's writing down a napkin, hit blast it out, hit send, have the

assistant throw it in Canva, and we're off and running. What we're doing today, again, we're sort

of starting to slice and dice 2025 a little bit because we've been recording some stuff.

And I'm honestly not sure what order these things are coming out, even though I'm editing

and everything. But what this

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