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🗓️ 11 December 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Jonathan Goldberg KC has acted for alleged murderers, rapists and fraudsters during his five decades as a leading barrister. Among his high-profile clients: Brink’s Mat launderer, Brian Perry. He takes Alice and Matt inside the uncompromising world of criminal justice, and reveals the long lasting impact of Brink’s Mat Heist. Plus, what’s it like to defend someone you suspect to be guilty?
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0:00.0 | From Wondery, I'm Matt Ford. |
0:09.6 | And I'm Alice Levine. |
0:11.3 | And this is British Scandal. Alice, in this series we've seen the crime, the cover-up, the punishment, and the very, very long arm of the law. |
0:30.6 | I mean, say what you like about Brian Perry, but he managed to keep out of the spotlight for a very impressive amount of time. |
0:36.1 | It was nearly 10 years between the heist and him being found guilty. |
0:39.8 | And during that time, he was laundering his money and Mickies, who'd been the mastermind of the heist. |
0:44.9 | It's an amazing story, but it does make you think, what's it like to defend someone like Brian Perry in court? |
0:50.6 | Yes, it was all over the news. |
0:52.2 | Everybody knew about it and was talking about it. The tabloids had a field day. The media just would not abate. I suppose you also, as an individual, not considering this as a huge event in the country, are thinking, what if I don't get this guy off? He's part of a huge robbery. He's got people everywhere. What does this |
1:12.2 | mean for me? Never mind my career. What about my life? I can't even imagine what that would have |
1:16.5 | been like. Well, imagine no longer, Alice, because today I have for you a man that's spent a lot |
1:21.3 | of time in court, in a professional capacity of course. Jonathan Goldberg, K.C. has a career |
1:26.4 | spanning over half a century. |
1:28.3 | He's acted for some of the most notorious alleged murderers, rapists and fraudsters in criminal |
1:33.0 | courts. But we're talking to him today because he was the defending barrister of |
1:37.9 | Brian Perry. |
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