Hello, hello and welcome back to a bit fruity. I'm Matt Bernstein and I am so happy that you're here. This is going to be thorny. This is going to be a thorny one. Is that how I want to start it? Do I want to scare people away?

Not really. Oh, Zemphic, the word that brings up a million and one feelings from everybody at this point.

It means something bigger than itself. It's like the way that Google is to search and Kleenex is to tissue.

Ozempic means a whole number of things and it's weight loss, it's inequality, it's celebrity culture, it's

capitalism

capitalism

I just want to jump into the deep end and

see how we fare.

Quick content warning before we get into today's episode.

Today we're going to be talking about obviously Ozepic,

we're going to be talking about weight loss drugs and body image

and diet culture and eating disorders, and if that is something that for whatever reason is not

safe for you to listen to an hour of content about totally understand take care of yourself

we will see you at the next one.

There is nobody who I would rather talk about this with

than the one and only Aubrey Gordon, who is here with us today.

I am so so so excited.

Aubrey is an author. She has written two books.

One is called What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat.

And the other is you just need to lose weight and 19 other myths about fat people.

She is very notably to me a podcaster at her show, Maintenance Phase, the critically acclaimed maintenance phase. The critically acclaimed maintenance phase.

Maintenance phase is a podcast that if you've never listened to it before, I am jealous of you because

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