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The Challenges (and Triumphs) of a Young Manager

HBR IdeaCast

Harvard Business Review

Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Communication, Marketing, Business, Business/management, Management, Business/marketing, Business/entrepreneurship, Innovation, Hbr, Strategy, Economics, Finance, Teams, Harvard

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2019

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Julie Zhuo, Facebook’s VP of product design, started at the company as its first intern and became a manager at the age of 25. Like many first-time bosses, she made many missteps and acted how she thought managers were supposed to act. Eventually, she grew to find joy in the role and today she leads hundreds of people. She says that becoming a great manager also helps you know yourself better. Zhuo is the author of the book "The Making of a Manager: What to Do When Everyone Looks to You."

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0:00.0

How do you navigate gender in your workplace?

0:04.0

HBR's fan favorite podcast Women at Work is back with personal stories, the newest research,

0:09.2

and practical advice on navigating disability, career failures, and joining a board.

0:14.0

Listen for free to H-BRA's women at work wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the HBR IDEAcast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Kurt Nickish.

0:37.0

Flashback with me to the early days of Facebook. Not quite all the way back to founder Mark Zuckerberg

0:49.0

in his Harvard dorm room days, but not that long after.

0:52.8

In the early 2000s, Facebook had set up in California.

0:56.4

And like a lot of startups there,

0:58.4

a handful of bright recent graduates

1:00.8

were working long hours and fantasizing about changing the world.

1:04.4

The entire company staff could fit into a backyard party.

1:09.1

One of them was Julie Zoo who started there as the first intern.

1:14.0

She studied computer science in college,

1:15.9

got hired as a product designer,

1:18.4

and then a few years into the job,

1:20.4

she suddenly got a tap on the shoulder. She became a manager. It was a

1:26.2

daunting experience one with many missteps and misunderstandings. At just 25

1:31.1

years old she tried to act the way she thought a manager was supposed to act.

1:36.3

Back then, Zoo didn't get much guidance on being a first-time manager, and now she's written

1:40.9

the book she wishes had been there for her.

1:44.2

Today Julie Zoo is the Vice President of Product Design at Facebook.

1:48.8

Her book is called The Making of a Manager.

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