You know it happens that the NDAA 2012 gave the government the right to haul you off any street on earth including in the US and not admit that they even have you.

Well, there go your habeas corpus rights, and the only reason that this is not a top level concern

is that presumably it is at the moment being used rarely if ever.

But having carved out the right, what's standing between us and an absolutely

apocalyptic level of totalitarian control is our ability to notice things and

discuss them which is hanging in the balance in this election.

Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

I'm paranoid about all those.

I'm not even paranoid. It's not even paranoia anymore. pleasure of over the last several decades you know that Matt is one of the last honest to goodness

journalists left in the wild so Matt welcome to Darkhorse.

Thanks for having me on Brett you're too kind that That's a very, very nice introduction.

Well, I, you know, I wish it were an exaggeration, but I have watched the absolute

destruction of journalism in my lifetime and I honestly if I think about it can count all of the

holdovers from the era in which journalism existed who I think still practiced something like journalism on one hand.

Yeah, it isn't great, I'll put it that way, and a lot of the old timers who were really good at this profession have kind of moved on or have been sidelines so it's

getting a little lonely you're absolutely right it's getting thin on the ground so there's lots to talk about. You of course were a major

component of what has gone on to be called the Twitter files. You've been tracking the censorship industrial complex since before anyone called it that. You've been slandered, you have been shadow banned, you have faced all manner of control from Glyeth and what I'm hoping you'll do is tell us about the censorship

industrial complex what do you know about it that you think people have trouble

understanding what are the pieces of evidence you might bring to bear

for people who doubt its existence and and then we can talk about how it relates to

rescue the republic? Sure, so as you know because we talked about this before the Twitter files.

I, even before that story came up for years I had been covering the phenomenon of people

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