I think it's long overdue for this lobbying to be exposed for what it is

and for us to try to reset the narrative about the PFAS regulation and to reclaim it.

You're listening to EU Watchdog Radio.

Hi, welcome.

I'm Joanna Lossin, comms officer at Corporate Europe Observatory.

On today's episodes, I'll talk to my colleague Vicky Ken, who has just released a huge report about PIFAS, the Forever Chemicals.

This is a very special investigation, as our findings concur with the cross-border investigation

of the Forever Lobbying Project, which has also just been released.

The project was coordinated by LeMont and involved 46 journalists and 29 media partners

from 16 different countries in collaboration with us, the Corporate Europe Observatory.

And this investigation was one year in the making and is based on 14,000 previously unpublished documents on PIFAS.

So yeah, we're very proud of it. And if you are interested on this topic, subscribe to our

other podcast called What's Going Wrong and How to Put It Right, as we will shortly

have a second season all about PIFAS. And without further ado,

I leave you with my conversation with Vicky Ken. Thank you for listening. You've just launched a report

that took a long time to make and it's very exciting and at the same time equally worrying.

So could you start from the beginning and maybe just explain what are PFS

and why are they called forever chemicals?

Yes, so PFS have been around since the 1940s, in fact.

They are a class or a group of man-made chemicals.

And what group these chemicals together is the fact that they are very persistent.

They accumulate in our bodies, and are persistent in the environment as well.

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