Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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And it turned down federal funding. President

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the curriculum centers in the Western tradition. Its Catholic identity builds upon Thomas Aquinas

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David Dozenberry is with us today. He is Research Fellow at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

He's the author of Platonic Legislations, an essay on Legal Critique in ancient Greece.

But he has a new book. That's our topic today.

It's entitled The Innocence of Pontius Pilate,

How the Roman Trial of Jesus Shaped History.

Welcome, David.

Thanks so much.

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