The 'Crypto Wizard' vs. Nigeria
Planet Money
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🗓️ 11 February 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Tigran was in Nigeria as a sort of envoy. He was supposed to meet with government officials and show them that Binance – and crypto itself – was safe, reliable, and law-abiding.
One of the most important meetings was at the headquarters of the Office of the National Security Advisor. He says officials there made him wait hours. And when officials finally came into the room, they accused Binance of a host of crimes and of tanking the Nigerian economy. They then told Tigran that they weren't going to let him leave Nigeria until they were satisfied that Binance was going to remedy the situation.
On today's show, in a collaboration with Click Here from Recorded Future News, we hear about Tigran's eight month detention in Nigeria. In his first recorded interview after his release, he shares details about his captivity, how he survived one of Nigeria's most infamous prisons, and how he got out.
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| 0:27.3 | There is this video that I've not been able to stop thinking about since I first saw it. |
| 0:33.0 | It's a short video, just 39 seconds long, of a bearded man with a tight haircut, a white t-shirt, |
| 0:39.0 | and a gold chain. And he is filming himself selfie style, but he seems to be holding the phone |
| 0:45.0 | at this weird angle, as if he's trying to hide it from someone. |
| 0:50.0 | Hello, my name is Sigran Gambarian. I'm a head of financial crime compliance for |
| 0:53.1 | finance. I've been detained by the Nigerian governmentgren Gambarian. I'm a head of financial crime compliance for finance. |
| 0:59.5 | I've been detained by the Nigerian government for a month. I don't know what's going to happen to me after today. |
| 1:03.6 | If this is ringing a bell, it first made the rounds last spring. |
| 1:07.6 | I've done nothing wrong. I asked the United States government to that system. |
| 1:12.3 | I need your help, guys. I don't know if I'll be able to get out of this without your help. Please help. Then the video just ends. It's haunting. I first heard about this guy |
| 1:22.5 | and this video from legendary reporter Dina Tampbell Rastin. Hey, Dina. |
| 1:27.6 | Hey there. |
| 1:28.4 | Dina, you've been following this story, the story of Tegren Gambarian, since day one. |
| 1:33.8 | Yeah, I knew Tegren. He's a former IRS investigator. He's American. And I'd interviewed him |
| 1:39.6 | for a bunch of stories. So I found out pretty quickly that he'd been detained in Nigeria. And I thought |
| 1:45.5 | they'd hold him for a couple of weeks. I had no idea that it was going to become such a saga. |
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