Welcome to part two of our conversation with Eric Vitale about dealing with demons.

Let me ask you this, because this is an interesting way of thinking about this or putting this perspective out there.

And this is all obviously just conjuncture, its opinion.

I love to hear, you know, someone who's into this, who's been on many investigations, you know, what, you know, where your experience leads you to think, you know, this may go.

When you have a case that is demonic and you're able to use holy water, you're able to use relics and things like that, and make a dent with them,

because clearly it's an opposing force. It doesn't like those things. You have that sort of case,

and let's say, you know, this works. This actually got this thing to either tone itself down

or get the hell out of the place that is being investigated.

Compare that to a case where you have an earthbound spirit.

Let's say it's an abusive husband or grandparent or something, something that was a real

pissy individual that really wasn't that great in life, but is dead and is still there.

But they don't give a shit about your holy water or your relics.

They don't, that doesn't matter to them.

And they're not the type that are going to get, leave by suggestion either of just the hey let's live a you know happy cohabitating

lives just don't scare me which does seem to work quite a bit but they're not that either they're

just the asshole that is still an asshole um yeah what what do you do in a case like that because

i would almost look at that from a distance and go, well,

it seems like you could probably get the demon out easier because there's at least a defined

line of what they will be able to withstand. But when you just have, you know, old asshole

Uncle Larry, nothing got to him. And it doesn't seem to in death either.

What's more difficult to exercise?

I mean, it's tough because a lot of times these earthbound spirits, they'll feel so attached

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