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Worklife with Adam Grant

The dark side of charisma

Worklife with Adam Grant

TED

Management, Worklife Podcast, Worklife With Adam Grant, Work Life Balance, Ted Talks, Podcast About Work Life, Ted Adam Grant, Adam Grant Podcasts, Ted Podcasts, Adam Grant, Organizational Psychologist, Business

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

You may think no leader could ever be too charismatic, but the evidence is clear: a dazzling personality doesn't always drive success. In this episode, Adam investigates why an excess of charm can actually be detrimental to people and organizations. He chats with bestselling author and executive coach Liz Wiseman and one of her clients, CEO Hazel Jackson, about how to spot baseless charisma — and why sometimes leadership calls for being a bit boring.

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective. of as we tackle big topics like how whales became the face of environmental activism,

0:25.7

how to succeed at failing, and whether public transportation should be free.

0:30.3

Go ahead, listen to Freakonomics Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.0

So kids, I just saw that the word of the year for 2023 is Riz? What's a Riz? Well it comes from the word

0:47.0

charisma, Riz, charisma, and it's when somebody, it's like if somebody is good at floriting.

0:54.8

Who has Riz?

0:56.0

Uh, Timothy Shalame, Tom Holland.

1:00.3

Who else?

1:00.7

I miss Kelsey.

1:02.2

Oh, that's a good one. Somebody interviewed him and they were to say, just

1:06.9

Travis Kelsey have Riz, he would say totally. Yeah, yeah.

1:10.0

Mm-hmm. At work, Riz is more than a trend.

1:16.0

Curizma has long been a trait that we prize,

1:18.6

and that many of us try to emulate.

1:21.0

We look to charismatic leaders for vision, for inspiration, for innovation.

1:25.0

We admire them as role models.

1:28.0

In politics, you might think of Martin Luther King Jr.

1:31.0

Nelson Mandela, Ronald Reagan, Barak and Michelle Obama, or John F. Kennedy.

1:37.0

We'll light our country and all who serve it, and the glow from that fire can truly light the world.

1:45.0

In business, examples range from Steve Jobs to Oprah.

1:49.0

Use this moment to encourage you, to embolden you, and to literally push you into the rising of your life.

2:00.0

And in entertainment, you can't talk about charisma without mentioning Beyoncée and Taylor Swift.

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