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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

The 'Day After' in Gaza - with Haviv Rettig Gur

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

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Society, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

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🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In today’s weekly check-in with Haviv Rettig Gur of The Times of Israel, we discuss Israel's current thinking about what a post-Hamas Gaza might look like - from a governance perspective and a security perspective. It's a topic we'll return to from time to time as the planning is fluid, but we are beginning to learn about early thinking from Israeli officials.

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The Abraham Accords countries, and I include for the moment the Saudis even though that normalization isn't a done deal yet, they desperately want, and Israel desperately wants, both sides really desperately want an alliance and as

0:12.8

explicit and as robust as they can make it

0:15.4

against the great existential threat

0:17.7

that they both perceive in Iran.

0:20.0

And that means an alliance also against all the proxies that Iran has built to essentially

0:24.3

dismember the Sunni Arab world.

0:27.4

The Abraham Accords countries would invest massively, would build Gaza, and would be trying their best as a matter of fundamental policy

0:36.0

as a front against Iran

0:39.0

to rebuild, stabilize,

0:41.0

and essentially get the Gaza question off the table as a point of disagreement with the Israelis, as a front against Iran, and turn Gaza into a Palestinian option that isn't the Iranian option option which is what Hamas has become.

0:54.2

Everything else is a much worse option. It's 10.

1:08.0

10.30 p.m. on Sunday, December 10th in New York City.

1:12.0

It's 5.30 a.m. on Monday, December 11th in Israel as

1:17.6

Israelis get ready to start their day. Looking back at the pause in war fighting, which feels like it was many weeks ago, in fact the end of the

1:28.8

pause was just about a little over eight days ago, there was a sense in the midst of that pause, at least among

1:36.0

some U.S. officials and among many in the media, that this just might be where the war begins to end.

1:44.7

The ceasefire would be extended and extended and extended and

1:48.4

extended and

1:49.1

and Israel would slow walk itself into a permanent ceasefire. Ultimately though, Hamas broke the

1:56.5

ceasefire and the US government supported Israel's resumption of military

2:01.3

operations but even with the pause we got a preview of

2:05.0

the questions being asked of Israel and a preview of the pressure on Israel for

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