Hey friends, Nina here. If you're in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area, I hope you'll join us on Sunday,

March 5th at 6 p.m. at Rio Bravo Brewing Company. We're doing a true crime live event. There's

going to be a bunch of podcasts there. We're doing a live episode, Q&A, and then a meet and greet.

Tickets are available on Eventbrite, and I really hope you'll join us. Again, that Sunday,

March 5th, 2023 at the Rio Bravo Brewing Company in Albuquerque. Hope to see you there.

Jennifer vanished sometime in the overnight hours. Right now there is no trace.

Investigators say evidence leave them to believe that she's dead.

Stick my nose back in that trail. That's all I can do.

This is already gone.

I think most listeners of the podcast know that I am passionate about cases involving children.

And I understand that cases involving harm to children are not always an easy listen.

But I believe that when a child is lost and the case is unresolved, we need to give that case

our attention even when it's uncomfortable. Today is another one of those cases where a family

faces a terrible loss and now, more than 40 years later, they are still waiting for answers.

So come with me to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where an 11-year-old boy vanished on Halloween night.

11-year-old Carl Heichel was the only boy and a family of girls. He lived with his sisters

and parents in the small community of Centennial Heights, Michigan. Centennial is near Cali-Mat,

a former UP boom town. Cali-Mat was known for copper mining in the late 1800s into the 20th century.

The entire community is quite small. If you fold in nearby towns like Centennial Heights and

Lorium Township, the population surges to about 2000 people. The nearest big city is Marquette

Michigan at two hours away. If you need a larger town, it's a four-hour drive to either Green Bay

Wisconsin or Duluth, Minnesota. On the afternoon of Halloween, 1981, 11-year-old Carl told his

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