This is the Jocco debrief podcast episode 17 with Dave Burke and me with Jocco Willink.

Dave, talk to us about the debrief really quick.

What is it we're doing here?

We are debriefing.

Actually debriefing interactions we have with clients that we work with at our salon

front, interacting with folks that join us on the EF Online Brigade and the EF Online

live Q&A sessions that we do.

And we take issues that our clients are dealing with that are often similar to many other

issues and we kind of combine them into a debrief so partially I can tell you what's going

on that I'm working on and also so we can share the lessons of the challenges that not

only are our clients facing, the same problems everybody's facing.

So we are actually debriefing what's going on.

So you know what's going on in my world and then everybody listening gets a little sense

of the challenges people are dealing with and hopefully have a solve them a little bit

better.

Yeah we probably had 700 and 1000 of these conversations before one of us said you know what

it might be a good idea to record this so we can actually tell other people and they can

share these lessons learned so that's what we've been doing and with that let's debrief

what do you got?

When you're calculating how often you should argue with the people around you a good place

to start is is never that's a good place to start start with almost never and then

we both but but what if I'm right?

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