This is the Jocco debrief podcast episode 18 with Dave Burke and me kicking it.

The debrief podcast, what it is is we have a business.

It's called National Front.

We work with companies.

We help them with their leadership inside their companies.

And Dave and I often debrief about the clients that we're working with.

And so at one point we decided it would be good to share these conversations where we

debrief and discuss solutions with other people.

Well, with everybody I guess, so that everybody can learn.

So that's what this is.

As far as our clients go, when we give the stories about the clients, we totally change them.

You won't be able to identify who this company is or what company.

You won't even know what industry they're actually in because we protect the privacy of our

clients.

We use a story wrapped around with a similar, similar story so that we can explain the

situation that we face and then we just press record and release it as the debrief

podcast.

That's where we start.

So what do we got?

Dave, what's the latest and greatest out on the front lines?

Yeah.

And just I guess to add that a little bit is one of the things that makes us able to

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