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American Thought Leaders

The DeepSeek Psyop Explained: Nicolas Chaillan

American Thought Leaders

The Epoch Times

Government, News, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

The Chinese AI app DeepSeek recently became the most downloaded iPhone app in the United States and caused U.S. tech stocks to plummet. President Donald Trump described it as a “wake-up” call for American companies.

So what’s really going on? Is DeepSeek as powerful as people think? Or is there a bigger story here?

In this episode, we sit down with AI expert Nicolas Chaillan, former chief software officer for the U.S. Air Force and now founder of the generative AI company Ask Sage.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0

The Chinese AI app, Deepseek, recently became the most downloaded iPhone app in the U.S.

0:06.4

and caused U.S. tech stocks to plummet.

0:09.1

President Donald Trump described it as a wake-up call for American companies.

0:13.5

So what's really going on?

0:15.8

Is Deepseek as powerful as people say?

0:19.0

Or is there a bigger story here?

0:20.4

They were able to disrupt half a trillion dollar of market share, market cap,

0:25.6

shorting the stock and making a whole bunch of money at the same time,

0:30.6

with really nothing to back it up, just noise,

0:34.6

and completely manipulating the market. That's scary.

0:38.3

Today I'm sitting down with AI expert Nicholas Cheyenne,

0:42.3

former chief software officer for the US Air Force,

0:45.3

and now founder of the Generative AI Company Ask Sage.

0:49.3

He's worried that the US Department of Defense is falling woefully behind China when it comes to adopting

0:55.3

AI technology in the military.

0:57.2

What you see is the CCP adopting an incredible amount of velocity and speed,

1:04.5

Bay-DU-GPT and Deep-Seek models, even the new Alibaba models into their military networks.

1:12.4

This is American Thought Leaders and I'm Yanya Kellick.

1:15.5

Nicholas Cheyenne,

1:19.4

such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

1:22.4

Good to see you.

1:24.4

So DeepSeek has been described by some as a Sputnik moment, a second Sputnik moment for America.

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