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🗓️ 21 January 2025
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We interviewed Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland. In this episode, we spoke with him about becoming prosecutor, the pre-trial phase of the case against Richard Allen, and why he likes being the underdog.
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0:00.0 | Content warning, this episode contains discussion of murder, including the murder of two children. |
0:06.3 | As the elected prosecutor of Carroll County, Indiana, Nicholas McLean is one of the central figures in the Delphi murders case. |
0:15.1 | Back in 2022, he brought charges against Richard Allen for the murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. |
0:21.9 | He shepherded the case through years of pretrial hearings and filings, and a trial that lasted weeks. |
0:29.4 | Finally, he and his deputy prosecutor, Stacey Deiner, and James Luttrell, secured a conviction. |
0:36.2 | McLeeland first became the county's prosecutor at the end of 2017, well after the murders. |
0:42.1 | On December 2nd, 2017, the Carroll County Republican Party voted to select McLean to replace |
0:47.6 | prosecutor Robert Ives, who resigned in the middle of a term. |
0:51.1 | After the conclusion of Ives' term, McLeod was elected to the office. |
0:55.0 | Before that, he was a local defense attorney who earned his undergraduate degree from Indiana |
0:59.5 | University in Bloomington and secured a law degree from the University of Toledo. |
1:04.8 | As prosecutor, McLeodin kept in close contact with the investigative team on the Delphi case. |
1:09.8 | We will be the first to say that we are guilty of having underestimated prosecutor |
1:14.6 | McLean earlier in our coverage of this case. |
1:17.5 | Around the time of the probable cause affidavit being sealed, we had concerns. |
1:22.5 | The Delphi murders trial was shaping up to be a monster. |
1:25.9 | And we wondered, why is this prosecutor sealing the PCA? |
1:29.9 | We pretty much posited on this show about whether or not he was up for the challenge or if the case |
1:34.5 | itself was weak. Our opinions of Prosecutor McLean started to sharply shift after the safekeeping |
1:40.5 | hearing in June of 2023. In that pretrial hearing, Prosecutor McLean pretty deftly |
1:46.7 | knocked down all of the claims the defense team had been making. We were impressed. |
1:52.0 | Since then, Prosecutor McLeeland has done most of his talking in the courtroom and in legal filings, |
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