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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

The Dutch Turn Right, Spain Stays Left

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8274 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In Spain, an unlikely left-leaning coalition has managed to block the right from taking power; in the Netherlands, the far-right has come out on top. This week we’re talking about two very different political situations with the help of Politico reporter Aitor Hernández-Morales and producer Katz Laszlo in Amsterdam.  You can follow Aitor on Twitter here and read his reporting here. Our episode about life as an undocumented person in the Netherlands, ‘Mohamed’, is here. Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠⁠leaving us a review⁠⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.  This week's Inspiration Station offerings: ‘Anatomy of a Fall’, ‘Ordinary People’, and ‘Treasure Islands’ by Nicholas Shaxson.  Producers: Katz Laszlo and Katy Lee Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | Bluesky | ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠[email protected]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to...

0:09.0

Hello and welcome to the Europeans podcast.

0:26.8

There are three of us today.

0:28.1

I'm Dominic in Amsterdam.

0:30.3

I'm so sorry.

0:31.6

I've got some hobops tucking my throat.

0:33.3

This is Katie in Paris.

0:34.4

Classic.

0:35.0

And this is cats also in Amsterdam.

0:37.0

And cats, you just moved house.

0:38.3

I can see some boxes behind you.

0:40.3

Yeah, but I only moved three doors down.

0:43.0

And funnily enough, I just moved in with someone who was in a workshop that Katie and I gave about the Europeans podcast.

0:50.1

And whose studio we've used to record the recent Oatney episodes?

0:54.6

I'm slowly inching in.

0:57.3

Nice way to announce it.

0:59.1

So are you two like down the road from each other now?

1:01.1

Are you still extremely far apart despite being in the same town?

1:03.7

There's a whole body of water between us still.

1:06.1

And then search a long cycle.

1:09.0

But it's nice that you get to see each other on this video call.

1:11.5

Absolutely.

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