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The Edition: SAS betrayal, the battle for Odesa & in defence of film flops

Best of the Spectator

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🗓️ 28 November 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week: SAS SOS

The enemy that most concerns Britain’s elite military unit isn’t the IRA, the Taliban or Isis, but a phalanx of lawyers armed with the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), writes Paul Wood in The Spectator. Many SAS soldiers now believe that if they kill a terrorist during an operation, they’ll spend decades being hounded through the courts. Paul speaks to former SAS soldiers who say that stories of men being ‘dragged back to be screamed at in interview rooms’ are ‘flying around the canteens now’. Soldiers feel like ‘the good guys have become the bad guys – and the bad guys are now the good guys’. This is hurting morale and may eventually hit recruitment. Paul joins the podcast to discuss further, alongside Colonel Richard Williams, a former SAS commanding officer in Iraq and Afghanistan. (01:36)

Then: how much more punishment can Ukrainian city Odesa take?

The Black Sea port of Odesa occupies a unique role in Ukrainian – and Soviet – history. Added significance has been thrust on it by the Russian invasion: both symbolically, as well as practically, given how central it is to grain exports. But while war weariness sets in for Ukrainians – and their allies – the battle for Odesa is ever more crucial; further deadly aerial attacks took place only days ago. In the magazine this week, journalist Peter Pomerantsev reviews a new book looking at the port city by Julian Evans. Undefeatable: Odesa in Love and War is part-history book, part-memoir exploring many of the human stories that make up the city. How has the conflict changed the people of Odesa? And for Ukrainians who grew up consuming Russian-speaking media and culture, did the war challenge their identity? Peter joins the podcast alongside the author of the Spectator’s Ukraine newsletter, Svitlana Morenets. (18:24)

And finally: do we secretly love a good film flop?

‘I’ve fallen out of love with cinemas,’ declares long-standing (or should that be long-suffering?) film critic Chris Tookey in the magazine this week. He argues the experience isn’t as good, and Hollywood is partly to blame. Perhaps films are getting worse? Some people love a good film flop though – the big-budget blockbuster disasters. Fellow film critic Tim Robey is one such person, and he explores his love of Hollywood flops in his new book Box Office Poison, out now. But how has the experience of cinema changed? And what’s the worst film they’ve ever seen? Tim and Chris join the podcast. (32:58)

Hosted by William Moore and Lara Prendergast.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson and Patrick Gibbons.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash Friday.

0:16.0

Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator, where each week we shed a little light on the thought process behind putting the world's oldest weekly magazine to bed.

0:26.7

I'm William Moore, the Spectator's Features Editor.

0:29.2

And I'm Laura Prendergars, the Spectator's executive editor.

0:32.4

This week we look at the great betrayal of the SAS.

0:35.8

We look into the history of the Ukrainian city, Odessa,

0:38.9

and we ask whether we secretly love a big cinema flop.

0:50.4

Who dares? Sins.

0:53.1

In his coverpiece for the magazine this week, Paul Wood writes that the enemy that most concerns the SAS isn't the IRA or the Taliban or ISIS, but it's a phalanx of lawyers armed with the European Convention on Human Rights.

1:07.7

Paul says that many SAS soldiers now believe that if they kill a terrorist during an

1:11.7

operation, they'll spend decades being hounded through the courts. This has, understandably,

1:17.6

had a very detrimental effect on morale and may eventually affect recruitment. Paul joined me

1:23.8

earlier to talk more about his piece, along with Colonel Richard Williams,

1:29.6

a former commanding officer in the SAS.

1:35.6

I started by asking Paul to explain the new enemy, as he puts it, that the SAS face.

1:37.3

Well, this is a morale problem.

1:41.1

They're unhappy, first of all, and the piece is making quite a simple point, that the SAS is something that we might need to call on one day, say there's

1:45.1

another British version of the Bacalan nightclub attack in Paris or the Charlie Hebdo attack.

1:51.5

And it would be quite a comforting thought to many people that if the Metropolitan Police

1:55.2

couldn't cope with it, that there'd be a Chinook flying in from Hereford with some people

2:00.1

to help. So it's first

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