The Edition: the West's right turn, Michael Gove interviews Jordan Peterson & the ADHD trap
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🗓️ 2 January 2025
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Summary
From Milei in Argentina to Trump in the US, Meloni in Italy to the rise of the AfD in Germany, the world appears to be turning to the right, say James Kanagasooriam and Patrick Flynn. One country, however, seems to be the exception to this rule: our own. Britain under Keir Starmer appears to be putting on a revival of the old classic Socialism in One Country. However, beyond Westminster, the data show that Britain is not moving to the left in line with its government. While the Conservatives and Reform are locked in a near-constant struggle for supremacy, polling shows that the public are moving to the right. Both parties can pitch for the socially conservative vote, but it is on the economy that Britain’s battle for the right becomes interesting. James and Patrick joined the podcast earlier this week to unpack their cover piece.
Next: Jordan Peterson on faith, family and conservatism
In the magazine this week, our editor Michael Gove interviews Canadian psychologist and commentator Professor Jordan Peterson. His latest book, We Who Wrestle with God, explores the psychological significance of Bible stories. He spoke to Michael about supernatural relationships, the folly of Conservatives and the future of Europe. You can hear an extract from that interview on the podcast, but the full interview is available on The Spectator’s YouTube channel, Spectator TV.
And finally: the dangers of over-diagnosing ADHD
‘Just a decade or so ago I rarely saw anyone in a clinic with “attention deficit hyperactivity disorder”,’ writes Max Pemberton, a consultant psychiatrist, in The Spectator this week. Now, he says, he sees at least one case a day. Have all these people simply been undiagnosed for years? To what extent are we medicalising normal everyday issues, difficulties and problems? To discuss, Max joined the podcast alongside Mary Wakelfield, The Spectator’s commissioning editor, who has had her own run-in with the adult ADHD trap.
Presented by Lara Prendergast and William Moore.
Produced by Oscar Edmondson.
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| 0:43.7 | 2025, James Kangasaurium will be explaining why the world seems to be turning rightwards. |
| 0:49.6 | Michael Gove interviews Jordan Peterson, and we look at the dangers of over-diagnosing ADHD. |
| 1:01.8 | First up, the fight for the future of the right. From Malay in Argentina to Trump in the US, |
| 1:07.7 | the world appears to be turning to the right, say James Kengazorian and Patrick Flynn |
| 1:13.2 | in this week's cover piece. Could we soon see the same happening in our country? Although there is |
| 1:18.8 | a large Labour majority government, beyond Westminster, the data shows that Britain is not moving to the |
| 1:25.0 | left in line with this government, but is moving very quickly to |
| 1:29.1 | the right on many salient issues from immigration to the economy. Well, we spoke with James |
| 1:34.5 | and Patrick earlier this week about their cover piece and the future for Britain's right wing. |
| 1:39.1 | I started by asking James to take us through what the data is showing. |
| 1:43.5 | Thanks, Will and Laura, pleasure to be here |
| 1:45.7 | with Patrick. So in terms of why Britain is tilting to the right, but its political cycle appears |
| 1:51.6 | not to be, I think it's just taking a couple of steps back into what the political science theory |
| 1:56.6 | was that we tried to unpack and how that operates in terms of the political cycle. So basically, |
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