Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Job. And I go by the name, Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other.

So join us each Saturday for Civic Cypher on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or

wherever you get your podcast.

It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examined an unmistakable turning point in American politics, the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history.

So if you're trying to make sense at the present moment, check out

Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

So thanks very much, guys, for coming on the show. And before we dig in, I want to do my due diligence

and point out that I'm the only one on this call to not have won a Hugo Award, because Kelly

also won a Hugo. If you have fewer than three, it's like you don't have one. Thanks, Ty. You know,

he did write us the night we got our Hugo to tell us that. Wow. He just rounded you down to zero hugos.

All right.

Well, welcome to the less than three Hugo Club, Kelly.

Thanks.

Me, you, and most of the planet.

We'll drink after this.

We'll drink after this. Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's The Extraordinary Universe.

I'm Daniel Watson.

I'm a particle physicist, a huge sci-fi reader, and a big fan of The Expans.

I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith.

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