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They say that any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.

Well, there's one technology that people have lusted after for thousands of years that we now rely on, even find routine.

I'm talking, of course, about flight.

It's been only a hundred years since people were able to leave the ground

and fly through the air and return safely. Now it's so routine that people sleep through it.

But imagine what that would seem like someone from a thousand or 10,000 years ago. It's essentially

like magic. Of course, we know it's actually not. It's science because we can understand

it and we can break it down. We can explain it. We understand why planes fly, right? Do we? Could we actually

explain it to visiting ancestors from the deep past? Or is it still some kind of black magic, even for

modern humans and the best aeronautical

engineers. So today on Daniel and Kelly's extraordinary universe, we'll be asking an old

question, why do planes fly? Hi, I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith, and my favorite way to travel is by train.

Hi, I'm Daniel Weitzen. I'm a particle physicist, which means I have to fly around the world to get to the biggest particle accelerator.

And what is your worst flight experience? My worst flight experience is traveling with my own

six-month-old baby. We had a bassinet and we got her to sleep in the bassinet and we thought,

oh, this is going to be great. Then the sewardess came by and said,

oh, there's some turbulence. You have to take her out and put her in a seat and buckle her in.

And we said, no, she's sleeping. And she said, sorry, it's the rules. And everyone around us went,

oh, no. And they were right because she screamed for the rest of the eight-hour flight. Oh, no, that's horrible.

I'm so sorry.

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