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Let's talk about that for a second.

Could you break down their freak off is a media term.

Puff called them Wild King.

That's, yes.

That's what it seems to be.

Yes.

Yes, yes. And Cassie and her lawsuit called him

freak off. So, you know. But yes, he, he, they were referred to as wild king nights

when Phil was was working for him. And Phil was his assistant. And so, yeah,

distinguish between the big celebrity, you know, events, parties,

and these smaller intimate affairs.

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