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The Documentary Podcast

The Fifth Floor: India's 'godwoman'

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Delhi correspondent Divya Arya recently met a woman who claims to perform miracles. She’s called Radhe Maa and her devotees see her as a God. She’s not the only person in India who claims to have god-like powers, but she is unusual as mostly these people are men. Divya got rare access to the lavish home in which the 'godwoman' lives, to better understand this world of unquestioning faith.

Presented by Faranak Amidi Produced by Caroline Ferguson and Alice Gioia

(Photo: Faranak Amidi. Credit: Tricia Yourkevich.)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:07.8

This is the fifth floor.

0:11.5

The fifth floor, you knowsson.

0:15.6

This is the fifth floor at Farnak Amidi Sobath. This is the fifth floor at the heart of global storytelling with BBC journalists from all around the world.

0:28.9

I'm your host, Faranak Amidi.

0:35.1

God men are not uncommon in India.

0:39.0

They often wield a lot of power and influence and can have large numbers of devotees.

0:45.4

But Rathema is unusual because she's a woman.

0:49.7

She claims to do you, I don't carew it. She claims to do actual miracles.

0:59.1

Her devotees see her as a godwoman and are happy to travel just to be in her presence.

1:05.6

Our reporter in Delhi, Divya, got extremely rare access to Rathema and her followers to get a real

1:13.9

insight to what it means to be a godwoman. What they actually are, are very, very influential and

1:21.3

powerful people. They command huge followings. Many of them amass a lot of wealth, though they don't necessarily display it.

1:31.2

Some of them show a life which, at least from the outside, looks very simple. A lot of them

1:37.5

do a lot of charitable work alongside their preachings. But most of them claim to do miracles. And that is where it becomes a bit of a

1:47.4

sticky wicket. Because if somebody is imparting wisdom and another person is benefiting from it,

1:52.7

then that's absolutely fine. But if somebody is claiming to do miracles and there are people

1:57.6

who are going with blind faith to that person, that's where a lot of anti-superstition activists come in and criticize these men and women

2:07.9

claiming to have godly or divine powers to intervene in everyday lives.

2:12.7

And in fact, some godmen have been accused of corruption.

2:16.7

Some have been convicted of corruption,

2:19.2

wrongdoing, even sexual assault of their followers. They are behind bars. So they're powerful,

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