In this fast-evolving business landscape, how do leaders turn setbacks into opportunities for

growth? Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast, where we dive into the minds of

the world's greatest thinkers and doers. I'm your host, Dr. Michael Jervais, by trade and training,

a high-performance psychologist. And today I'm really excited to welcome Deb

Cup, who embodies the best of leadership. I do not say that lightly. Deb is the president of

Microsoft Americas. It's a huge job now. And I've had an up-close view of how she works. She comes alive at the intersection of staying

customer-centric while being able to scale teams within highly complex business landscapes. Deb is fun.

You're going to hear that. She's amazing to be around. She brings the best out of her teams.

She brings the best out of me.

She's earned her resilience.

And it is no wonder why her teams perform in a world-class way.

If you are curious about building a career that's both purpose-driven and high-performing

or how to lead with resilience and empathy?

This conversation is packed with actionable insights and wisdom.

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So let's jump right into this week's episode with the inspiring Deb Cupp.

Deb, this is so much fun to sit with you.

I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, this is great. I've been excited

about this for weeks. Have you? Yes. That's really good. I love spending time with you. Ditto. And,

you know, you have so much to offer, obviously, inside of the big job you have at Microsoft,

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