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5 Minutes in Church History with Stephen Nichols

The Goose & the Swan

5 Minutes in Church History with Stephen Nichols

Ligonier Ministries

Christianity, History, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2017

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

“Today you burn a goose, but in one hundred years a swan will arise which you will prove unable to boil or roast.” Recorded on location at the burial place of Johannes Zacharias, the bishop of Erfurt, Dr. Stephen Nichols tells the story of the Goose and the Swan.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to another episode of five minutes in church history. We are on location again as we're making our trek through Luther's life and talking about Luther's thought and his legacy.

0:10.0

And we are here in Erfurt. We talked about yesterday,

0:13.4

Luther's time at Erfurt in general.

0:15.7

But we want to focus on this special moment

0:18.2

and even this special place.

0:19.9

We are in the church here of the Augustinian church and of the Augustinian cloister.

0:25.1

This is where Luther came as a monk.

0:27.2

This was that time again of intense struggle for Luther, intense spiritual struggle for Luther. Here in Erfurt, Luther would have been ordained as a priest and would have been instructed to give his first mass.

0:39.0

What's fascinating about this location is that this lab right here and in front of this very

0:44.5

altar is actually the burial place of the Bishop here at Erfurt of Johannes

0:51.8

Zacharias. He was born in 1384, which happens to be the same year that John

0:58.3

Wickcliffe dies, and we'll talk about that in a moment. And he dies in 1428. and he was

1:05.0

was trained at Oxford and he was the chair of theology here at the university and he was

1:10.0

Bishop.

1:11.0

And so Luther would have had to prostrate himself over this slab before this altar.

1:17.0

Fascinating about this is the legacy of this man, Johannes Zacharias. He played a key role in a council that met in

1:27.3

Constance in Germany, the Council of Constance. He was a fierce opponent of one of the pre-Reformation reformers,

1:36.4

Jan Haas. In fact, there were two pre-reformation reformers that factor into the story there at the Council of Constantinople.

1:45.0

In May of 1415, the Council posthumously condemns John Wycliffe.

1:52.0

Wycliffe had died of natural causes. He had two condemns John Wickcliffe.

1:52.5

Wickcliffe had died of natural causes.

1:54.2

He had two strokes, and that likely led to his death

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