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Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day,

talking about everything from welfare reform to the preservation of bats. And joining me are the Batman and Robin, but which is which, of the Times and Sunday

Times, and they are judicious columnist Libby Purvis. Hello, Libby.

Hello, can I be Robin, please? I'll allow it, I think, I suppose. And in that case, Batman,

The Times of Science Editor, Tom Whipple. Hello, Tom. Hello, well, that makes me feel very masculine.

Thank you.

Well, that might, but you've just come into the studio holding a handbag, and I want to know why.

I haven't come into the studio holding a handbag.

Hold it up so I can see it.

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