The Great Tariff Debate with David Sacks, Larry Summers, and Ezra Klein

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4.2 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Bestie intros!

(0:58) Reacting to Trump targeting China and postponing all other reciprocal tariffs

(21:21) Measures for success of tariffs, debating the impact of letting China into the WTO

(46:14) Is the US being exploited on trade? Was free trade a mistake?

(1:02:01) Recession chances, How the Trump administration gathers information

(1:19:39) Future of the Democratic Party, Abundance agenda, DOGE

(1:51:00) The Besties recap the debate and Chamath recaps the Breakthrough Prize Ceremony

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Referenced in the show:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1910058352278708638

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/why-trump-blinked-on-tariffs-b588aea8

https://breakthroughprize.org

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0:00.0	Looking forward to our thing in a few weeks.
0:02.1	Yeah, I don't know if I'll end up being there, but I'm hoping to.
0:04.7	I'm hoping to.
0:05.8	What do you guys?
0:06.4	You guys have like a liberal cuddle party, or what are you doing?
0:09.3	Yeah, yeah.
0:10.1	Larry takes a bunch of MDMA and we all sort of go into the corner and hang out together.
0:14.9	God, that sounds incredible.
0:16.8	Liberalism is wonderful, man.
0:17.7	You should come try it.
0:18.6	That's not liberalism is wonderful man you should come try it that's not liberalism it's called something else sorry nicky is our cryptos are joining us or no he's uh i'm talking to d'u-hs now it looks like he is
0:27.6	oh zing this is gonna be great this would be like ratings pananza all right we do have david sacks here
0:33.7	david let's you have a quick time on look at sax saxy poo. It's good. It's so presidential.
0:38.3	He looks thin, doesn't he?
0:39.3	Oh, he looks fabulous.
0:40.3	All right, here we go.
0:41.3	Let your winners ride.
0:43.3	Rain Man, David Sachs.
0:46.3	And it said, we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it. Love you, best.
0:54.5	I mean, I'm going all in.
0:58.2	All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world.
1:02.2	I'm your host, Jason Calacanis, with my besties, Chmach Polyha-Patia, our chairman dictator,
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