The Group Chat Heard ‘Round the World

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🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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How former congressman and Air Force veteran, Adam Kinzinger interprets the leaked Signal chat of top Trump administration officials discussing a military strike on Houthi targets. Guest: Adam Kinzinger, former Republican Congressman for Illinois’s 11th and 16th districts who served on the January 6th select committee, and author of Renegade: Defending Democracy and Liberty in Our Divided Country. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:26.6	So, Adam, on a day like today, I'm wondering, do you kind of miss your old job?
0:34.3	No.
0:35.5	No.
0:39.5	Adam Kinzinger used to serve in Congress.
0:43.3	Maybe you remember him. He's a Republican from Illinois, served on the January 6th committee.
0:49.4	Nope, I don't miss it because it's just out of control now. And I did 12 years, good enough.
0:55.4	But now, I mean, you can't even be an independent thinker in Congress anymore.
0:59.5	You have to just, I mean, at least as a Republican.
1:02.0	Okay, but the reason why I thought you might miss it is that today we had this congressional hearing about national security.
1:09.8	It comes just as some of the country's top
1:12.5	national security officials, like the Secretary of Defense and the CIA chief, found themselves
1:16.8	embroiled in a scandal over accidentally texting details of military operations to a journalist.
1:24.0	You seem to like mixing it up with people. I could see you really relishing a day like today.
1:29.4	No?
1:30.5	Yeah, okay, so you got me there.
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