The Hard Joy Of Writing With Sharon Fagan McDermott and M.C. Benner Dixon
The Creative Penn Podcast For Writers
Joanna Penn
4.8 • 745 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2024
⏱️ 67 minutes
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How can we focus on the joy of the writing process itself, rather than the outcome? How can we embrace the positive side of being jealous of the success of other writers? How can we deepen our writing with metaphor and sense of place? Co-authors of writing book, Millions of Suns, Sharon and Christine share […]
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Creative Pen podcast. I'm Joanna Penn, thriller author and creative entrepreneur, |
| 0:08.9 | bringing you interviews, inspiration and information on writing, publishing options and marketing ideas for your book. |
| 0:17.0 | You can find the episode show notes, your free author blueprint and lots more information at |
| 0:23.0 | TheCreativepen.com. And that's Penn with a double N. And here's the show. |
| 0:30.9 | Hello creatives. I'm Joanna Penn. And this is episode number 738 of the podcast, and it is Saturday the 17th of February |
| 0:39.4 | 2024 as I record this. In today's show, I have an interview on writing craft and creative |
| 0:46.8 | mindset, as I discuss the hard joy of writing with two co-authors, Sharon Fagan McDermott and M.C. Benedictson. And I rarely do these |
| 0:58.3 | three-way conversations, so I think you're going to enjoy it. We talk about why we find joy in the |
| 1:04.8 | work of writing, regardless of the outcome, writing metaphor and sense of place, why jealousy is completely normal, |
| 1:13.4 | and how to reframe it in a positive way, and the benefits and challenges of co-writing. |
| 1:19.4 | This focus on the process is so important and reminded me of a quote from the Hindu scripture, |
| 1:26.4 | the Bhagwaggita. You have the right to work, |
| 1:30.1 | but for the work's sake only. You have no right to the fruits of the work. Desire for the fruits |
| 1:37.8 | of work must never be your motive in working. And that's so important for writers. And Stephen Pressfield quotes that also in his |
| 1:47.6 | book, do the work. And I always love to come back to that. And I was thinking about it at the moment |
| 1:53.0 | because I'm deep into first draft writing. And, you know, it's, it is digging stuff out of yourself. |
| 2:00.1 | And that work is why we love to do this I guess. |
| 2:03.9 | So that's coming up in the interview section. |
| 2:09.5 | So in publishing and book marketing things this week, well, there was a bit of a kerfuffle, |
| 2:14.6 | let's call it that, over Findaway Voices by Spotify's new terms of service, |
| 2:20.1 | with language that many interpreted as a rights grab. Now, it's pretty good to know that |
| 2:26.3 | as a collective, independent authors can make such a noise that a company will listen. And authors |
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