What is the proper role of submission and authority in the church?

The question has become a hot topic after we released audio from a meeting in which

Daystar President Joni Lamb and her ally Jimmy Evans pummeled Joni's son Jonathan and his

wife Susie with an absolute demand they submit.

Submission means she's the voice of God to you. What she says is God in Daystar.

This is the voice of God in Daystar.

Wait wait a minute, Jonathan. She's the voice of God in Daystar.

She is God's voice to you here on this property and related to Daystar network.

She is God's voice.

You submit to her with a right spirit. You submit. You have to submit. Either you submit or you

dumb. We'll leave if you don't submit to me. I'll submit to me. You'll submit to my authority.

That's all. I don't want to hear anything else. Yes, Mom, I'll submit to you.

Whatever she says moving forward is God. Welcome to the Roy's report, a podcast dedicated to reporting

the truth and restoring the church. I'm Julie Roy's. And on this podcast, we're going to examine that

meeting between Joni, Jimmy, Jonathan, and Susie. There's a doctrine, Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans

expressed in that meeting. But is it a biblical

doctrine? Where did it originate? And who's been promoting it and for what purpose? And joining me to

discuss these issues is veteran pastor, church planner, and author Lance Ford. For decades,

Lance has been challenging the conventional wisdom in the church on leadership,

governance, and accountability. And I think you'll find his analysis eye-opening. But just a quick

note for those who may not have been following what's happening at Daystar. In a nutshell,

the controversy involves allegations by Jonathan and Susie Lamb that Jonathan's mother, Joni Lamb, covered up the sexual

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