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This Scotland Outdoors podcast from BBC Radio Scotland.

Hello and thanks very much for choosing to listen to this. I'm Helen Needham.

This edition is all about wood and its role as a material for furniture making.

Callum Robinson is a woodworker who spent much of his life around wood,

a story which he captures in his first book, Ingrained.

For a day job, he creates high-end products for luxury global brands from his

workshop in West Lothian. But as his book explores, it's the beauty, the joy and often the

frustration of crafting characterful Scottish wood into furniture that really lights his fire.

I've been around wood for my whole life really.

My father is one of the most, I guess, well-known wood carvers in Scotland now,

David Robinson, who does, people might recognise,

these extraordinary carvings of otters swimming through elm.

I just saw one in your workshop. It's absolutely stunning.

They are incredible. I put them on social media, I know, a year or two ago,

and some six million people saw them in two days.

Wow.

My phone nearly melted.

He's always worked in wood.

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