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There's this space to tune into the hidden world of bats, an invitation to move together to the rhythms and the frequencies of bats and to sweat together to explore what it means to be human in the current climate and to come together to harness radical hope. Hannah Tuliki is an artist, composer and performer

based in Scotland.

Her latest project, Echo in the Dark, involves using the sounds of bats to create dance music.

I'm Helen Needham and recently I met up with Hannah at Hospital Field in Arbrooth,

the location behind the project,

to find out more about the hidden world of bats and how they've inspired her and others in so many ways.

In 2020, in the height of the pandemic, in September, I think, I got an email from Hospital Field inviting me to think about making a piece of work around bats.

There are soprano pipistrels living here. They are obviously not around just now because it's daytime.

And Hospital Field had been carrying out these nighttime walks, batwalks, with an ornithologist

called Ken Slater, to try to engage with the local audiences during the pandemic, you know,

when we couldn't be indoors together.

And they'd been really successful and there was this invitation to think about making work around bats.

And weirdly, two weeks before that, I'd been having a conversation with a pal about the idea of making dance music from bat echolocation calls as you do so it couldn't

have come at a better time this invitation yeah it was a strange uh synchronicity a moment of synchronicity

and so i wrote back to hospital field saying wow wow did you know did you did you read my mind um i'd love to how about

putting on a rave with music made from bat echolocation calls fused with my voice and um so we've been on a bit

of a journey together since then and they were supportive of your artistic idea yeah absolutely

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