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🗓️ 15 January 2025
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Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Elon Musk - what do these men have in common?
Just a few days from Donald Trump’s second inauguration as US President, hearings to confirm the team around him have started in earnest and the incoming 47th president has managed to pull together a coalition of competing interests - different groups with different priorities - all of whom see value in his Presidency.
But can these opposing factions work together, and what happens when they start falling out?
Kate Lamble is joined by Quinn Slobodian, Katie Stallard, and Freddie Hayward.
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0:00.0 | The New Statesman |
0:02.0 | Trump has proved, I think the diplomatic way to put it, is very flexible and very pragmatic in getting this far, in that he will tell different groups what they want to hear. |
0:17.0 | Just a few days from Donald Trump's second inauguration as US president, hearings to confirm |
0:23.5 | the team around him have started in earnest. Lots of people can latch on to what he presents. |
0:31.1 | They can also project. They can say, actually, Trump's the sort of person who wants to cut the |
0:37.0 | size of the state. Or you can have other people and say, actually, Trump is the sort of person who wants to cut the size of the state. |
0:37.9 | Or you can have other people that say actually Trump is the sort of person who wants to re-energize |
0:42.7 | the state to re-industrialize America. |
0:45.8 | Both of those things are compatible with what Trump says because he is very ambiguous. |
0:50.6 | During the election, Trump managed to pull together a coalition of competing interests, different groups with different priorities, all of whom see value in his presidency. |
1:02.1 | I don't attribute it at all to his ability as someone who was able to carry out a kind of careful balancing act between interest groups. |
1:07.9 | I think it's just that he has become such an unreplicable force |
1:11.5 | in American life that politics has become nothing more than how close you can get to Trump at Mar-a-Lago. |
1:18.2 | Trump's picks for the officials in his government see the same, perhaps uneasy coalition. |
1:24.2 | There are mainstream experienced Republicans, hardcore Maga believers and Silicon Valley billionaires. |
1:31.2 | That last group are called The Disruptors on the cover of this week's New Statesman magazine. |
1:37.1 | This is Insight from the New Statesman. |
1:40.2 | I'm Kate Lamble. |
1:41.6 | And today, we're asking, can these different groups work together? |
1:46.0 | I think there's absolutely a multi-car pile-up waiting to happen within this administration. |
1:51.8 | And what happens if, or more likely, when they fall out? |
1:57.2 | Let's start, though, by meeting the different groups surrounding Trump. |
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