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The Interbellum Constitution

We the People

National Constitution Center

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4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, political theorist William B. Allen, editor and translator of a new edition of Montesquieu’s The Spirit of the Laws, and Alison LaCroix, author of The Interbellum Constitution: Union, Commerce, and Slavery in the Age of Federalisms, join Jeffrey Rosen to explore the intellectual foundations—from Montesquieu and beyond—of constitutional interpretation from the founding to the Civil War. They also discuss historical practice and tradition in interpreting the Constitution throughout the interbellum period, and how this history applies to debates over constitutional interpretation today. This program was streamed live on June 17, 2024, as part of our America’s Town Hall series. Resources: • Alison LaCroix, The Interbellum Constitution: Union, Commerce, and Slavery in the Age of Federalisms, 2024 • Montesquieu, ‘The Spirit of the Laws’: A Critical Edition, edited and translated by W. B. Allen, 2024 • The Commerce Clause • Alison LaCroix, “James Madison v. Originalism,” Project Syndicate (Aug. 26, 2022) • 10th Amendment • Andrew Jackson, Proclamation Regarding Nullification, (December 10, 1832) • Martin v. Hunter's Lessee (1816) • Preamble to the Constitution Questions or comments about the show? Email us at [email protected]. Continue today’s conversation on Facebook and Twitter using@ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate, at bit.ly/constitutionweekly. You can find transcripts for each episode on the podcast pages in our Media Library.

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0:00.0

Hello friends. I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center

0:07.4

and welcome to We The People, a weekly show of constitutional debate. The National Constitution

0:12.0

Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit charted by Congress

0:15.2

to increase awareness and understanding of the Constitution

0:18.1

among the American people.

0:20.1

In this episode, I'm delighted to share a great conversation I had recently with

0:25.2

Allison, Lachroy, and William B. Allen.

0:27.9

Allison Lachroy is author of the Interbellum Constitution, Union Commerce and Slavery in the age of federalisms, and William B. Allen

0:35.5

is editor and translator of a new edition of Montezquez, The Spirit of the Laws.

0:40.0

We explored constitutional interpretation

0:42.8

during the interbellum period

0:44.7

before the Civil War

0:46.0

and the intellectual foundations of constitutionalism

0:50.3

from the founding until today.

0:53.0

Enjoy the conversation.

0:55.0

Welcome and thank you so much for joining Allison Lucroy

0:59.0

and William Allen.

1:01.0

Allison, congratulations on your new book,

1:03.9

The Interbellum Constitutions.

1:06.4

Tell us about your argument in this very important work,

1:10.8

which is that this was a time not of an age of federalism but federalisms as you put it and

1:17.8

that the conventional narrative of this period oversimplifies the deeply complex relationship of federal state

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