I like to say in fair play, right? We've conditioned women to treat their time like it's infinite like sand.

And we've conditioned men and society to treat men's time as if it's finite like diamonds.

And if you don't believe me, health systems for young mothers, for new mothers are telling women that breastfeeding is free.

When it's 1,800 hours a year, it's a full-time job. If you don't believe me,

just watch what happens when women enter male professions. Salaries automatically come down. Since birth,

women have heard these messages that our time is less valuable. And so we internalize those messages.

And we say to ourselves, my job is more flexible. So I should be the one picking up our child from school or taking the step back. We say to ourselves, my job is more flexible. So I should be the one picking up our child from school

or taking the step back. We say to ourselves, in the time it takes me to tell him,

her, they, what to do. I should do it myself. So all I can tell you, Caitlin, is we're not

Albert Einstein, right? We can't fuck with the space time continuum. That fundamental unfairness

is what has to change. My time is is diamonds and that's what I care about

that's the boundary we're talking about today ready to rock and roll yes let's rock and roll

all right let's fucking blow the doors off this thing even what's up everybody welcome back to the podcast today Eve.

What's up everybody?

Welcome back to the podcast.

Today I have somebody who's just an amazing woman.

Her name is Eve Rodsky. If you are not following her on Instagram or you haven't read one of her books or seen

her documentary called Fairplay, you need to. Eve is educated with her

VA at the University of Michigan. She has her JD from Harvard Law School. So she is no fucking

slouch in the academic category here. She worked for a long time in the corporate world and

has shifted her life and has become, you know, a voice

and a conversation starter around changing the script for women in recognizing how unequal

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