He's said some stuff that made it clear with Moira Dotigan about the Jane Collective. Moira is a columnist, she is a

writer whose work I've admired for years, she is the co-host of the In Bed With the Right

Podcast and if you listen to our last episode with

Adrian Dob on Dunctions and Dragons you'll know that he is the other co-host and

so I'm so lucky to be able to have her on as well.

And to have her tell me the story through her work

as a historian of the Jane Collective,

a group of feminists in Chicago who's starting

in the late 1960s

asked themselves the very important question,

what would happen if we just learned

how to provide abortions?

We have a couple content warnings for this episode

because in talking about a feminist collective

learning to provide abortions we first have to talk about why that was necessary

and the forms of medical abuse that were involved in the act of seeking an abortion at that time and of course not just at that time.

So that's a topic that we get into and sexual assault is a theme in that as well.

So listen with care.

In addition, we also have a conversation that goes from about minute 35 to about minute 40 where we talk about

some of the technical aspects of the procedure of a DNC abortion both for the

provider and for the patient.

This is a really interesting part of the conversation

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