Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported ministry.

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I'm Roger Marsh, your co-host for today, and we are here at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention in Dallas, Texas,

space where thousands of communicators have gathered to learn, to commune, and to use their God-given talents for his glory. Now, our guest on the

program today is Dr. Sandra Dalton Smith. She is a board-certified internal medicine physician,

an international speaker, and the CEO of Restoracus, a workplace well-being consultancy agency.

She's written a book that was just released called Being Fully Known, the joyful satisfaction of

beholding, becoming, and belonging. And we'll be discussing that on today's broadcast as well as our

next one. Dr. Sandra Dalton Smith, welcome to Dr. James Dobson's family talk, Dr. Mrs. Dobson,

send their warmest regards as well. Thank you so much for having me. How can we be fully known? I mean, that's something that

hearts cry from scripture. We see the psalmist write about this, and we want the good parts to be

fully known, but not all of it too. How can we even embrace that concept? Yeah, I think it really

begins with understanding the reason behind the subtitle. The subtitle of the book is the joyful

satisfaction of

beholding, becoming, and belonging. And being fully known starts off really with looking at Christ,

evaluating who God is, getting a clear picture of the aspects of his character that we have

yet to really ingest for ourselves, and allow that to reveal to us parts of our own

identity that we are not stepping into. You have written a book about rest, a book called

sacred rest, which I found fascinating because I don't do that very well. I don't think a lot of

us do. In researching for that book, what did you find about how people look at rest? I mean,

as part of belonging and becoming and who we

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